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Ex- the fashion retailer top executive Mike Jeffries was taped saying to his associate how they'd be in serious trouble and in big trouble if he was found competent to stand trial on human trafficking charges in the coming months, a US district court has heard.

The taped conversations were included in in excess of 100 telephone conversations between the former retail executive and Matthew Smith played during a four-day fitness to stand trial hearing recently on Long Island.

Jeffries' lawyers contend that he is coping with cognitive decline and the onset of Alzheimer's and is unfit to face trial together with his partner and their accused middleman in October.

Nevertheless, prosecutors contend their health professionals concluded his health has improved and that the recordings reveal he is incredibly fixated on being declared unfit.

In additional tapes, Jeffries is heard saying he is praying for a favorable ruling, labeling being found fit as a calamity, and instructs a doctor: you had better rule me unfit, the judge learned.

Judicial Process and Psychiatric Evidence

The conversations were recorded in the past year while he was being treated for four months in a mental health unit at a federal prison in North Carolina to assess if he could recover fitness.

The elderly defendant had earlier been ruled mentally incompetent in May but prison officials then declared in December that he was able for proceedings subsequent to his hospital stay.

The prosecution told the judge Jeffries often griped about incarceration and was heard telling to Smith how terrible incarceration was, stating: that's why we must succeed.

Context

Jeffries, his partner Smith, 62, and their accused middleman James Jacobson, 73, were charged with orchestrating a global human trafficking and commercial sex enterprise in October 2024.

They have pleaded not guilty the allegations, which have a potential penalty of life in prison.

Their detentions came after an report that revealed the trio had been at the centre of a elaborate network recruiting young men for sex around the world while Jeffries was chief executive of Abercrombie & Fitch.

Judge Nusrat J. Choudhury will decide in May about whether Jeffries will stand trial after weighing the testimony of several professionals - forensic psychologists, psychiatrists and neurologists, including prison doctors - who were questioned in the courtroom this week.

'Disinhibited' Behaviour

A trio of defense witnesses, testify that Jeffries is legally unfit due to the residual effects of a brain trauma, probable a form of dementia and Alzheimer's disease.

They stated that Jeffries exhibits disinhibited and socially inappropriate behaviour, which is symptomatic of a spectrum of dementia symptoms.

Examples include Jeffries calling the prosecution's psychologist a derogatory term, complimenting her hair, telling another expert his clothing was poorly tailored, and describing his partner Smith as a dwarf, they say.

He was also recorded in excruciating detail on about 20 jail conversations planning his travel itinerary for the coming months, even though having been on house arrest since 2024.

"I can't go on trips without you," Jeffries was heard saying to Smith from incarceration.

The prosecution contend this indicates his recognition that he would be released if he was found unfit and the charges were dropped.

Conversely, the defense's medical experts disagree, arguing it instead underscores that Jeffries has forgotten his court-ordered limits and the severity of the situation.

"He lacked the expected emotional response that I would expect someone to have who is confronting such serious charges," said one forensic psychiatrist who reviewed Jeffries.

"Instead, his manner during the evaluation... was as if we were having lunch at his home. There was no indication of alarm."

Conflicting Psychiatric Assessments

Testimony indicated there is information that Jeffries' mental decline began in 2013, when scans showed reduction in volume, which was worsened by a incident in 2018.

Jeffries had been intoxicated at the time of the 2018 fall and his medical records showed he kept on drinking following being treated, but an expert told the judge he did not think his overall intake had a significant effect on his health.

Following the fall, Jeffries experienced psychosis, and started seeing things, with one incident in 2019 where he was discovered in his underclothes, incapacitated, in a neighbour's garden.

Medical professionals from a prison hospital said that Jeffries was competent after evaluating him over four months in prison.

They assert his mental faculties did not match Alzheimer's disease, which the court heard could not be conclusively diagnosed until an post-mortem could be performed.

"Even given the declines that Mr Jeffries has undergone... he still is brighter and more functioning intellectually than probably 95% of the patients that we assess for competency," stated one expert.

Jeffries, dressed in a suit and tie in the court, was reported to be lighthearted and fairly charismatic during interactions in prison, and was deliberately pushing boundaries, sometimes using informal language.

They assessed Jeffries with slight deficits and suggested his results may have gotten better since 2023 from low or deficient to typical because of sobriety and more consistent medication management during his confinement.

109 Jail Recordings Prompt Questions

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